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Do the dead deserve respect?
No, all dead are dead, and deserve no respect. 2 (11.1%)
Yes, all dead deserve respect. 3 (16.7%)
Only specific people/famous people deserve respect. 2 (11.1%)
Respect must be gained in life, and those who did great in life deserve respect after they die. 11 (61.1%)
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Do the dead deserve respect?
Topic Started: Apr 22 2014, 06:59 PM (2,354 Views)
Shei Len
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Do the dead deserve respect?

Please discuss, and debate amongst yourselves.

Please state why you believe so, or not, whether it be religious obligations or ideals, or something else.
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Only if they earned it during their life, they don't have to be famous or anything, but there are many people who have died who don't get much respect and often get the opposite, look at how much someone like Hitler is ridiculed, because he did bad things and doesn't deserve respect.
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I think Hitler deserves some respect.

With the exception of the Holocaust, he was one of the greatest leaders of the 20th century.
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..is that supposed to be a joke?

Why does being a leader exempt you from wrongdoing???? Christ.
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Shei Len
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Personally, I feel that slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people just because they were born differently than you kind of outweighs any respect you've gained as a leader (?) in the first place. But that might just be me?
Edited by Shei Len, Apr 23 2014, 07:56 AM.
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Eh. I kinda agree about him being a great leader. Yes, he doesn't deserve a whole 'lot of respect because of all the harm he did to innocent people, as he was ruling, but I still think he was a great leader. He did a lot that a lot of people couldn't do.

Do the dead deserve respect? Like aforementioned, I believe it depends on the person, and how much respect they gained over the course of their life. I feel that there is still some people who shouldn't be forgotten. That is, not for a long time.
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Apr 23 2014, 07:23 AM
I think Hitler deserves some respect.

With the exception of the Holocaust, he was one of the greatest leaders of the 20th century.
I actually don't entirely disagree with you on this.

He might have been an utterly despicable person, but the fact is that he unified Germany and pretty much made it in to the superpower that they're known to be today. Without him and his reich's innovations, we wouldn't have a lot of the stuff that we have today. He was the one who enabled nuclear research, considering that almost all the scientists who worked on the Manhattan Project were either Nazi defects, or were Jews who had fled Germany during the early stages of World War II.

I personally wouldn't respect him as a person, but from a historical point, I do. The Nazi party and the effect of opposing them is a major reason why superpowers are as advanced as they are today.

As for the subject, I do believe that dead deserve respect, or at least their memory does.
This is the one reason why I think that select group of Atheists in California are complete a**holes for filing a lawsuit against the state, saying that road side crosses put up by family members of deceased motorists are a "constitutional violation".
I myself am Atheist, but that's simply a d*ck move, and utterly disrespects the memory of these deceased people and their families. I have absolutely no problem with roadside crosses, and I don't see why people shouldn't be able to put them up to memorialize their loved ones.
Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Apr 23 2014, 01:15 PM.
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People should be respected for their great deeds and shunned for their misdeeds. You can have both at the same time. Alexander the Great is known for being this...well great conqueror and today we see Alexander as this awesome badass. Alexander did some stupid and morally questionable things to himself. It's not a matter of whether the person themselves deserves respect its a matter of their actions and how much respect that deserves.

Hitler unified Germany and basically helped push it out of the brink, crafted new highways, laws and essentially made Germany into a world power. That deserves respect.

The Holocaust however...doesn't deserve respect.
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I disagree with giving Hitler any respect since his entire reason for doing all that stuff was so that he could invade other countries more easily and rule them with an iron fist. In other words his motives were all wrong. You can't respect him for that.


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Apr 23 2014, 01:37 PM
I disagree with giving Hitler any respect since his entire reason for doing all that stuff was so that he could invade other countries more easily and rule them with an iron fist. In other words his motives were all wrong. You can't respect him for that.
Napoleon re-discovered the Sphinx because he went on a conquest of Egypt. The Sphinx today is a treasured relic and considered one of the greatest wonders of the world.
Do you consider that evil?
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It really depends on the person. If they were really bad people then I have little to no respect for them
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I respect Napoleon since he was actually a decent man. Not a monster like Hitler. The Sphinx would have been discovered even had Napoleon left Egypt alone.



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"I am the bone of my sword."

You people are letting your morals get ahead of yourselves again. You don't have to like the person in general but there's no denying some of the most evil men in history did do some great and respectable deeds that helped others out greatly.
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Apr 23 2014, 03:29 PM
You people are letting your morals get ahead of yourselves again. You don't have to like the person in general but there's no denying some of the most evil men in history did do some great and respectable deeds that helped others out greatly.
What are we without our morals? You can hardly tell us to stop 'letting our morals get ahead of us' when our morals are what we base respect on. I'm not going to respect somebody who I find morally reprehensible, regardless of what else they've done. Perhaps that makes me illogical, weak, laughable, but I don't really care. Motivations are incredibly important things. It doesn't matter what great, magnificent thing you've done; if you've got questionable or malicious intentions behind it, you shouldn't be respected.
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Exactly. If Hitler did any great deeds then they are undone by the intention behind them. I mean he basically transformed Germany into a war factory bent on taking over the world at the expense of those he personally considered weak or inferior.


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